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Bitcoin ATM Business Overview: Cory from TheCoinBros interviewed by Jerry V Hall

In this recent interview, you can hear more interesting advice from Cory, TheCoinBros CEO. A company that currently has 60 machines and is steadily expanding throughout the east and west coast. He will be sharing his thoughts and experiences about different aspects of the Bitcoin ATM business.

The challenges of starting a Bitcoin ATM business

Starting a Bitcoin ATM business at a time when there were only 90 machines in whole California was tough, says Cory. Of course, the biggest obstacle was the regulation. They needed to plow through so much to actually make it past that barrier where most people just give up.

Now they have an established AML KYC policy. As he claims, if you agree to be a money service business and a financial institution, you must agree to play ball. If you don’t you will definitely get caught and sanctioned. Cory added that their policy is not that complicated and they never use the customer information for anything. He actually says that the AML KYC policy is there to protect the customers from different scams because anytime there is any sort of money involved there will always be bad people to try and take advantage of others.

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Making Crypto Accessible to Everyone with Bitcoin ATMs

In the below video, you can hear an interview with Zach Harvey, the CEO of Lamassu, one of the biggest Bitcoin ATM Manufacturers on the market. He shared his thoughts about the cryptomarket and the way it is heading, as well as his insight into the Bitcoin ATM business, Specifically, what differs it from the exchanges and what is the worldwide coverage.

Interestingly, before becoming a successful crypto entrepreneur, Harvey owned a guitar store with his brother in Israel. As they were starting to adopt the libertarian philosophy at some point, and developing ideas about a decentralized marketplace, the concept of decentralized currency emerged naturally in their minds and was just an obvious next step. It took them some time to gain trust in Bitcoin, but after some persuasion from their libertarian friends, in 2011 they started offering to sell guitar gear for Bitcoin at their store. Of course, they were the first store in Israel to do so, and sure enough, nobody ever paid them in Bitcoin for anything at that time.

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Paul L – Cryptocurrency Entrepreneur – Bitcoin ATM Machines

In this video, MSCS media hosted Paul Leix. He is a partner in a Bitcoin ATM Operator called Digital Ventures Group. He talks about a lot of different crypto-related stuff, including the Bitcoin ATMs, the Operating business, compliance, predictions…etc.

Paul’s beginning was somehow interesting. He started trading Bitcoin back in 2013. after his then friend, and later partner persuaded him. For some time they traded at LocalBitcoins when they met an owner of Red Leaf Bitcoin ATM company and got an idea to go that path themselves. Have in mind that it was back in the day when Bitcoin ATMs were very rare. So, they went to the guy they know who owns a liquor store and installed a machine there on their own. The thing is that at the time they didn’t know how to get the compliance. The concept of crypto was new back then and they needed someone to do it for them. The first guy wrote a 2 pages long document and charged 900 bucks for it. Later on, they found the right guy who wrote them a complete book of policies and procedures which was the real deal. Of course, it also cost them a lot more, $15.000 to be specific.

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How to Start a Bitcoin ATM Business – TheCoinBros Use Case

In the following video, you can hear Corey from TheCoinBros talking about everything you need to know if you want to start your own Bitcoin ATM business. He discusses AML & KYC policies, creating a legal team, which machines to use, banking, ideal locations, and what it takes to sell store owners on adding a machine to their shop.

TheCoinBros started in 2019 after Corey parted ways with his partner. He wanted to do things his way so he bought thecoinbros.com domain and registered the LLC in 2017 and sat on it for 2 years while he meticulously planned his strategy. At the very beginning in 2019 they had only 4 machines but quickly rose to 15 within a couple of months. Now they have close to 60 machines with plans to constantly expand. As Corey says, the Bitcoin ATM business is very unique, and it is one thing to have 2 machines but it’s a completely different animal when you start scaling up. So he will share some advice on how to start.

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Starting a BTC ATM Business? Some Advice from Crypto Crow. Part 2.

In the second video of the Crypto Crow Bitcoin ATM Business series, you will find out more about banking, AML/KYC, Compliance, and FinCEN. Jason will also reveal some shady practices performed by Bitcoin ATM Operators which will trigger a discussion about business ethics.

The Hardware

After going through all of the options that we mentioned in the previous post, from General Bytes to Alibaba, he decided to buy the machines at BitAccess. The thing he liked the most is that they were very helpful from the start all the way up to the shipping of the machines.

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Bitcoin ATM fees: 2016 revision

There is a steady increasing number of bitcoin ATMs on the map. However, many people complain that fees to use these machines are still high, although these complaints might not be that prominent as they were at the start of first bitcoin ATMs launch times. Users finally realize that running a bitcoin ATM is not that easy and there are many costs associated with it.

Bitcoin ATM fees were already analysed in our blog back in 2014. This article is supposed to look at what are the latest figures across the industry as of the end 2016.

There are two ways of collecting fee size on the site:

  1. First is based on the manually defined values. This is normally used for bitcoin ATMs, which don’t support passing online information over API. Most prominent example is Lamassu with currently 185 installed and operational bitcoin ATMs across the world.
  2. Another way to collect data is via online feeds. There are several bitcoin ATM providers, which support online reporting of information similar to the one used at actual machines. These are: Genesis Coin, General Bytes, and Bitaccess. In case of Genesis Coin and General Bytes machines, online price is taken and converted to fee size based on Bitcoin Average rate. This allows to make all fee size comparable. In case of Bitaccess fees are reported directly.

Since April 2015 we collect daily information about fee size. There were some algorithm adjustments to calculation and storing procedure over time, but generally fees are comparable historically.

General

Current worldwide average bitcoin ATM fee is 8.4% for buying bitcoins from machines, and 5.4% for selling bitcoins for cash.

Bitcoin ATM fees

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Revenue and costs of running a bitcoin ATM

Bitcoin ATM industry is growing fast. There are several new bitcoin machine installations worldwide daily. Existing bitcoin ATM operators increase number of machines in their networks, as well as new operators join the market. Even on the production side, there are new manufacturers developing their products and coming to the market with new bitcoin machine models targeting different segments and niches, e.g. recently were added BitTeller, Bitlox, BitConcept on our site.

Running a bitcoin ATM is an interesting business opportunity in the new era of digital currencies, however, sometimes the lack of information keeps people away as they don’t know where to start, or get any practical estimations of how much you can earn with a bitcoin ATM. In order to increase transparency Coin ATM Radar conducted a survey with a number of bitcoin ATM operators to find out what are current metrics of an average bitcoin ATM business.

Revenue and costs of bitcoin ATM

Before going any deeper we recommend to read:

Now back to survey. It was sent to 24 operators in total, 11 responded either in full or skipping some questions due to not wanting sharing info, although it was mentioned that none of info will be associated in any form to the company or person responding. Even limited info we received gives a good estimation of level of costs and earnings one should expect.

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Bitcoin ATM transaction is delayed – what to do?

Lately many bitcoin ATM users complained that they feed cash into machine, but don’t receive bitcoins to scanned address, or they sent bitcoins to a machine, but can’t withdraw cash. This post is supposed to check what are the possible reasons of this and how to prevent it or solve it when it happens.

Prehistory – Bitcoin network congestion and block size limit

Since Bitcoin launch in 2009 the network has been growing steadily with respect to number of transactions. There was a 1 MB limit set on block size by Satoshi Nakamoto to prevent spam/DDOS attacks on the network in the early days and this limit was left there untouched as there was a lot of space before this limit could be reached. Meanwhile, there were many hot discussions about what to do when we reach it. Unfortunately, measures were not taken on time, and today we still have this artificial limit set in the Bitcoin Core client, which is the most widely used by nodes and miners. So we reached the point when we are literally hitting the ceiling of the network capacity.

Bitcoin blocksize
Bitcoin blocks are consistently full, hitting the 1 MB limit (source: https://tradeblock.com/bitcoin)

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Remittance using bitcoin ATMs lets you earn instead of pay commission

Bitcoin ATM Remittance

International money transfer market – best fit for Bitcoin

Remittance market is a huge transfer of money happening every day. According to World Bank report the estimated remittances size in 2015 was forecast to be $601 billion. International transfers were one of the best-fitting envisioned applications of bitcoin, as it is state border-less by definition and cheap to send money irrespective of amounts sent, while only fees per transaction size in bytes matter. However, it is still a hard way to get Bitcoin adapted at a massive scale. Early stage of its development makes it an instrument for tech advanced people only.

With introduction of new bitcoin services we are moving closer to the case when bitcoin is used daily by many households, bitcoin ATM is one of such services. Initial idea of bitcoin machines is to exchange cash to bitcoins or other cyrptocurrencies and vice versa, bitcoin to cash. However, there are other use-cases for bitcoin ATMs evolved. One of them is international remittance.

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